CCDC/IUCr Journals proposal 3: Add audit_support category

James Hester jamesrhester at gmail.com
Wed Aug 26 01:54:23 BST 2020


Hi John, I suspect that the original list was constructed based on terms
that were seen in publications and research metrics exercises.  I don't see
a problem with your consolidation, perhaps the original proponents have a
comment? Given that the other entries in audit_support will fill out the
information in terms of funding bodies and the names of the
grant/scholarship/ etc. I doubt there will be much need for finer slicing.

I think it would be helpful to include the substance of your comments into
the definitions, as well as folding in the original words used. So:

  gift         'Funds were drawn from an unobligated, discretionary source
under the control of one of the participants in the research program. This
includes prize money and personal funds.'
  grant        'Funds were provided by an organization or person outside
the research program for the specific purpose of supporting the research,
as directed by the primary investigator'
  contract     'Funds were provided as part of a contractual agreement not
covered by other award types'
  studentship  'Funds were provided specifically to support a student in
conducting research, whether directly or indirectly. This category includes
scholarships and bursaries where the student is expected to engage in
research.'
  other        'Other type of support, including financial support not
explicitly directed towards research. This category includes scholarships
and bursaries for students that cover living expenses while pursuing higher
education with no requirement to conduct research'

all the best,
James.

On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 at 01:04, Bollinger, John C <John.Bollinger at stjude.org>
wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> Regarding "bursary" -- the word is not in wide use in American English.
> In fact, I personally recognize it only as an extension of "bursar", itself
> used in American English almost exclusively as a title (for a financial
> officer; usually in higher education), not a common noun.  Inasmuch as the
> definition says that the funds associated with a bursary award are devoted
> to supporting living expenses, the closest term I can think of in common
> American use is "stipend", but those are not necessarily awarded on the
> basis of need.
>
> Overall, I do think there is a lot of overlap between the definitions of
> the enumeration items.  They seem to be trying to capture several distinct
> characteristics, at least (1) the reason for the award and (2) the
> obligations associated with the award, with perhaps a bit of (3) who is
> eligible for such an award.  Additionally, I think the options presented
> have taken on a bit of a flavor of "Where can money come from in
> Academia?", which seems a bit out of focus to me relative to "How was this
> research funded?".  From this perspective, I might adjust the alternatives
> like so:
>
>   gift         'Funds were drawn from an unobligated, discretionary source
> under the control of one of the participants in the research program'
>   grant        'Funds were provided by an organization or person outside
> the research program for the specific purpose of supporting the research,
> as directed by the primary investigator'
>   contract     'Funds were provided as part of a contractual agreement not
> covered by other award types'
>   studentship  'Funds were provided specifically to support a student in
> conducting research, whether directly or indirectly'
>   other        'Other type of support'
>
> Illustrative examples:
>
>  - A person or organization ("funder") awards cash to Professor A in
> recognition of research they have done, without placing requirements on its
> use.  Professor A uses it to perform more research.  This is a "gift",
> regardless of the circumstances or reason for the money being given to A
> initially.
>
>  - A funder awards cash to Professor B, subject to a requirement that it
> be used to fund further research, generally subject to B's research
> priorities and direction.  This is a "grant", regardless of whether
> obtained competitively.
>
>  - A funder awards cash or cash-equivalent to student C for the purpose of
> supporting them to perform research, whether to pay directly for research
> expenses or to provide for their living or academic expenses in order to
> enable them to devote time to the research.  This is a "studentship",
> regardless of the criteria or process for selecting awardees.
>
>  - A funder awards cash or cash-equivalent to student D in recognition of
> their strong academic performance or of their need for assistance, in order
> to support them generally in pursuing a higher education.  This is *none
> of the above* (not even "other").  It is not research support at all,
> regardless of whether they perform research in conjunction with their
> academic program.
>
> Note also that I chose above to stick with a selection of the original
> enumeration items, but if that's not essential then I would suggest that
> "gift" might be better called "discretionary" or similar.
>
> I think that does a good job of drawing the most important distinctions.
> If it is desirable to slice the categories more finely then I suggest that
> subdividing those would be a viable way to proceed.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
> --
> John C. Bollinger, Ph.D., RHCSA
> Computing and X-ray Scientist
> Department of Structural Biology
> St. Jude Children's Research Hospital
>
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> coreDMG <coredmg at iucr.org>
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> *Cc:* James Hester <jamesrhester at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: CCDC/IUCr Journals proposal 3: Add audit_support category
>
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> Dear Core DMG:
>
> I am now editing in the new audit_support category to the core dictionary.
> One of the proposed definitions listed below originally had very
> telegraphic descriptions of award types.  I have added my glosses of the
> meanings of the various types, please advise if there are errors! Note in
> particular that I have changed 'award' to 'prize', which hopefully was the
> intended meaning.  There is also a lot of overlap between 'bursary',
> 'scholarship' and 'studentship' - I think these might have different
> meanings in different countries, so it might be wise to merge at least the
> latter two.  Thoughts?
>
> ====================
> save_audit_support.award_type
> _definition.id
> <https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdefinition.id%2F&data=01%7C01%7Cjohn.bollinger%40stjude.org%7C43ddb743a3b74fe09bde08d847f5247e%7C22340fa892264871b677d3b3e377af72%7C0&sdata=GA32v%2FPAtzV27tqi512Otlfry3eCOqGT5WG4y2pLq%2Bc%3D&reserved=0>
>                         '_audit_support.award_type'
> _definition.update                     2020-08-23
> _description.text
> ;
>         Type or kind of award.
> ;
> _name.category_id                      audit_support
> _name.object_id                        award_type
> _type.purpose                          State
> _type.contents                         Text
> _type.source                           Recorded
> _type.container                        Single
> loop_
>  _enumeration_set.state
>  _enumeration_set.detail
>      prize                   'Funds are part of a prize'
>      bursary               'Funds provided to students on the basis of
> need, to cover living expenses'
>      contract              'Funds provided as part of a contractual
> agreement not covered by other award types'
>      gift                      'Funds provided with no associated
> obligations'
>      grant                   'Funds provided through a competitive grant
> system'
>      other                   'Other type of award'
>      scholarship         'Funds competitively awarded to students on the
> basis of academic merit'
>      studentship         'Funds provided to students to carry out research
> during breaks in the academic year'
>
> save_
>
> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 13:02, James Hester <jamesrhester at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For full details see
> https://www.iucr.org/__data/iucr/lists/coredmg/msg00345.html
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>
> In summary: an audit_support category is added to the dictionary to
> capture funding support.
>
> My comments: I see nothing controversial here. Regarding research
> organisation IDs, if the number of possible identifiers looks like it might
> grow, rather than define a dataname for every new id issuer, an alternative
> approach would be to have a plain 'organisation id' and then 'org_id_type',
> where the latter is drawn from an enumerated list of the various sources of
> identifiers and explains how to interpret the 'organisation id'.  Of course
> this makes it impossible to attach more than one id to a given organisation.
>
> Does anyone else have any comments?
>
> James.
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