Tentative agenda for COMCIFS closed meetings Aug 28th and Aug 29th
Herbert J. Bernstein
yaya at bernstein-plus-sons.com
Tue Aug 16 04:22:49 BST 2011
Dear Colleagues,
Might is be possible to see a document on the new DDLm prior to the
meeting?
Shouldn't we be having three separate discussions and possible votes:
One on DDLm as currently posted, one on DDLm as newly presented, and one
on CIF2? The first of these could be done on the 28th.
Regards,
Herbert
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Herbert J. Bernstein, Professor of Computer Science
Dowling College, Kramer Science Center, KSC 121
Idle Hour Blvd, Oakdale, NY, 11769
+1-631-244-3035
yaya at dowling.edu
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On Tue, 16 Aug 2011, James Hester wrote:
> Dear COMCIFS members:
>
> Below is a tentative agenda for the two COMCIFS closed meetings. Note that the Aug 29th meeting will
> occur directly after MS89, at which Nick Spadaccini and Syd Hall will be presenting a revised version of
> DDLm. I expect that presentation to provoke considerable discussion, which is why the Aug 29th meeting
> will be entirely devoted to CIF2 and DDLm discussion. Please advise if you would like anything added to
> the agenda on Aug 28th.
>
> COMCIFS meeting agenda: Aug 28th
>
> 1. Brief report from chair on developments in previous triennium
> 2. COMCIFS directions over next triennium:
> (i) reforming dictionary management (see also Brian MacMahon's email of July 6th)
> (ii) developing a solid software base (APIs, canonical parser libraries in C/C++)
> (iii) other concerns to be raised by members
>
> COMCIFS meeting agenda: Aug 29th
>
> 3. Discussion of DDLm as presented in MS89
> 4. Subject to outcome, if any, of (3), *final* vote on CIF2 syntax draft as distributed by email last week
> 5. Any other business
>
> ================
> Explanation of item 2(i):
>
> I propose partitioning dictionaries that are managed by COMCIFS into three groups:
> (i) the 'core' group which are small enough and/or general enough for COMCIFS members to be able to
> approve both content and technical conformance;
> (ii) a 'delegated' group where COMCIFS delegates management of dictionary content to an outside body or
> dictionary management group; once COMCIFS has voted to delegate this management, no further votes would be
> required to approve dictionary content or updates, but technical correctness would be checked;
> (iii) a 'contributed' group where COMCIFS makes no statement as to scientific content and simply checks
> technical conformance. This group would correspond to those dictionaries that Brian was discussing in his
> email, and technical conformance would mean a simple syntax and DDL conformance check, not requiring a
> vote at COMCIFS level.
>
> Explanation of item 2(ii):
>
> Over the years COMCIFS has had various initiatives to produce and promote CIF software, but we are still
> at the stage where it is difficult to find a standalone CIF parser written in C that could serve as a
> starting point for integration into other languages, scripting or compiled, or could be dropped into a
> larger software project. Part of such an effort would be development of an API. I propose that COMCIFS
> set itself the entirely modest goal of developing and approving an API and a modular C parser before the
> next meeting. We will discuss the best way forward.
>
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